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I was wondering, I know there are a few planes used in the COIN role that may fit this discription, such as the Embrear Tucano. How  would this plane fare against the very best piston power prop...

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The main development in recent internal combustion engines is the light weight turbine super chargers and the computerized fuel injector systems which provides higher pressure with better response at...

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triring65 wrote: The main development in recent internal combustion engines is the light weight turbine super chargers and the computerized fuel injector systems which provides higher pressure with...

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I'm pretty sure that the upper limit in terms of absolute top speed for prop aircraft has already been pretty much reached. Even so, I don't think exactly what might be possible with a very powerful...

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Let me write a little story about flying the F8F which I have a LOA for and flew many pleasant hours back in the 1990s. The F8F is not a trainer. Remember that. The Bear gave me a stark reminder of...

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Sounds like the ST might give a P-36, Me-109E, or LaGG-3 a fair fight, though.

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Go back to 1915. BE2s were designed to be safe for green pilots, much more so than eindeckers. Even with forward firing guns they were Fokker fodder. The Tucano, as Wab says, is designed to be safe...

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High-speed spark ignition engines, like those on aircraft, are pretty much limited to about 160mm bore pistons; heat transfer limitations would probably limit long-life engines to about 200 to 250...

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There's a factor of 10 error in the initial post I think, you won't see much more than 120 kW / litre with any respectable lifetime

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WarshipAdmin wrote:There's a factor of 10 error in the initial post I think, you won't see much more than 120 kW / litre with any respectable lifetimeActually, modern F1 engines, his point of...

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WarshipAdmin wrote: There's a factor of 10 error in the initial post I think, you won't see much more than 120 kW / litre with any respectable lifetime Not sure about that, with F1 engine tech (around...

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Comparing F-1 engine with diesel is apples to oranges. You will never obtain the same revolution nor compression rate since diesel will reach combustion pressure rate. The smaller cylinder results to...

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Torque is largely irrelevant. Power is torque times rpm (there may be a constant in there, but not if you use the right units);  People like Charles Fayette Taylor will tell you, through their...

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Friday and work is just as boring. Cubes, Cam and Compression are how we make more power. Compression: (more power from unit of fuel) Better fuel – 100/150 → 125/165 gasoline (current Reno racing...

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triring65 wrote: I believe turbo prop planes used small multiple cylinders since it did not require large torque which is strong point of large cylinder...

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bager1968 wrote:triring65 wrote: I believe turbo prop planes used small multiple cylinders since it did not require large torque which is strong point of large cylinder...

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triring65 wrote:Comparing F-1 engine with diesel is apples to oranges. You will never obtain the same revolution nor compression rate since diesel will reach combustion pressure rate. The smaller...

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Not sure if I would agree with you there, mntzr: F1 engines are probably very close to the performance limits for spark-ignition 4-stroke engines, but they are very little better than high-performance...

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emc: Thanks for input I was wondering if a ducted fan - piston engine driven might allow for more ultimate performance.... mnztr: Automotive racing engines are poor cross over to aircraft engine...

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